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Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:31 pm
by jesselee
Hi Kaspar, those boots are amazing. Is there a vamp? If so how it it cut? Is the seaming on the sides or back. I would love to see them in detail.
Regards,
JesseLee

Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:45 pm
by kaspar
Jesse,
There`s no vamp as I recall. I must dig them out and have a look. The seam runs on the side.
I will post some new pictures as soon as I can.

Cheers
K.

Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:55 pm
by jesselee
Thanks Kaspar, they look amazing. Love to see more pics.
Jesse

Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:12 pm
by kaspar
Jesse,
here are the extra pictures. If needed I can take more.

[url=URL]http://www.thehcc.org/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?4/2814[/url]

Hemm..dont get the link to work. The pictures are in "Open forum" -> "Boots and shoes in history" -> "The gentle craft"
Cheers
K.

(Message edited by Kaspar on February 04, 2007)

(Message edited by Kaspar on February 04, 2007)

Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:57 pm
by jesselee
Hey Kaspar, been looking at them and wrote to you on the page they were posted..
Jesse

Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:06 pm
by jesselee
There was some mention of a feller on here who made awl hafts. Can't remember who it was. Does he have a catalog or website? I'm designing some hand tools and don't have a lathe. I make my awls (aside from the relics I inherited) from Allen wrenches.

Jesse

Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:17 am
by dw
Jesse Lee,

The maker is Dick Anderson of Thornapple River Boots.

Do a "keyword search" for "Dick Anderson" it should turn up his contact information.

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Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:21 am
by dw
Jesse Lee,

In point of fact, his address is listed in one of the posts in this very topic (near the top).

Get it quick though, I will archive a good portion of this topic soon.

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DWFII--Member HCC

Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:01 am
by jesselee
DW

Thanks for that information. As I feel 'reborn' in the Trade (after a 7 year absense). This time around I'm gonna do all the things I promised myself as a n apprentice, and one is making my own awls.

Jesse

Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:23 am
by jesselee
Hey Y'all. Does anyone have any mid 1800's tooling stamp pictures of the stamp design itself? I would like to see some. Also interested in seeing some freeform tooling, again same period.
Thanks,

Jesse

Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:42 pm
by tomo
Hi Jesse,
Here's Dick's website - for the awls etc.

http://www.thornappleriverboots.com/

More power to y'awl
Tomo (Tom O'Sullivan)

Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:02 pm
by kaspar
DEEEEM! The prices. Was looking the crimping screws!
And awls...and so on. Just few days ago I picked up some 8 old edge irons in very good condition in antique shop about 10 bucks for all. Well of course there are price /salary, economical differences between countries.

Cheers
K.

Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:04 pm
by firefly
Kasper,

If you are refering to the crimping screws from Dick Anderson I just received a set and they are all hand crafted and of superior quality. These are the Antique tools of the next century.

I do not know much about pricing but I know that there are not many folks out there that I could find that fabricate tools like this. And I know that there could not be too many that produce that kind of quality.

Just my input.

Thanks,

Mark

Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:18 pm
by kaspar
Mark,
that explains it if they are handmade. I did not read the page. Mybad.
But how much would the factory made ones cost?
Thanks

Cheers
K.

Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:38 pm
by firefly
Kaspar,

That's a good question. I really don't know if you can find factory ones unless someone else on the CC knows of a source. I know that a lot of guys have made their own. This just does not seem to be something readily available. It was probably more readily available 50 years ago.

Thanks,

Mark

Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:04 pm
by tomo
Hi Kasper,

Yeah, that's why Dick makes them for us, - they aren't available anywhere now.

Unless you had a good workshop and the skill to make them your self, then I think Dicks tools are value for money. Plus you know they work, and lets face it the guys here aren't the sort of people to put up with something that's less than satisfactory or being ripped off.
And you won't wear them out quickly either.

ImageThis might be getting a bit 'deep' but it has occured to me that a lot of young people, ie the ones born into the disposable world don't know what it's like to have tools and things made by craftsman. The passion that you put into your work and the magic that your hands do is enhanced or made better by good tools, that's why we all like the old ones and the old ways.
When you craft something or make it by hand, magic goes into it, part of your heart, part of your soul and every thing that's good.

More power to y'awl
Tomo (Tom O'Sullivan)

Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:15 pm
by kaspar
Agree with You, Tom.

Cheers
K.

Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:56 pm
by j1a2g3
Kaspar

I recieved a stitching awl, pegging awl and haft when I attended shoe school. I think they were made by C.S.Osborne. The haft came apart 1st time out. I had to put a nail in it to keep it together. (rough on the hands) The stitching awl snapped halfway around my 1st insole and the pegging awl just broke in an outersole I was just working on. ( it was no fun getting that piece out of the sole)

I now own 4 awls, 2 hafts, a pair of crimping boards and irons from Dick Anderson. I had the hafts made a little bigger and just the feel of the haft in my hand was will worth any price he charged me. Just my opinion, Joel

Tom, on right!!!!!!!! Joel

Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:16 pm
by jesselee
Tom
Thanks for Dick's URL, he's got some great stuff there.
Jesse

Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:48 pm
by rocketman
Here are my bookends!
4795.jpg

Couldn't find a sweet potato to throw in there but it's the thought that counts. Image

Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:37 pm
by jesselee
Lyle

It's looking good. Can't wait to see the first pair of lasts to be done. I'll send you that 19th c last when I get paid. Guess you can do mirror image now, huh! WOW!

Jesse

Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:49 am
by large_shoemaker_at_large
Hi All
Lyle nice bookends!

Re crimping irons. I just looked at Dick Anderson's site and I know this might sound dumb but how are they used? can some one send a pic of them in use. I have used a crimping board but I use tacks, some brute force, and some colourful language. Then I would trim away the tack holes and proceed to bring the vamp to it's final shape. I also tried using a thick cord tacked to a peice of plywood, traced the desired shape on the plywood and pulled the vamp around the cord then to the shape drawen. This worked with light leather. The thin diameter of the cord helped work out the fine wrinkles.
Regards
Brendan

Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:18 pm
by dw
Brendon,

Haven't got a photo of them in action but this might help:
6942.jpg


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Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:24 pm
by dw
Brendon,

No, I take that back I do have a photo of crimping irons in action:



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Re: Tools to Make

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:33 pm
by dw
Oops here's a smaller photo:
6946.jpg


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