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Re: Shoe machines

#426 Post by tmattimore » Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:07 am

There are two for sale that I can find in the states and they are both $900 plus. Just take out the right side needle and don't thread it and it is a single needle, which is what I think you have to do to zig zag you should be able to find a manual on line. IF the folder is not clogged to the gills with cement it sounds like a fair deal.
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#427 Post by sue_e » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:11 pm

thanks again Tom- decided to leave it but really happy that my pfaff 38-45 is on its way

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#428 Post by jesselee » Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:43 pm

Anyone know the thickest wire an auto-soler will take?

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#429 Post by washek » Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:10 pm

I am looking for a small sanding machine -- used, but in a good working order. It should have a 4 inch sanding wheel (or belt) with bearings on each side of the shaft. As I am an amateur who makes each year only one pair of orthopedic shoes for myself, I need a really small and not very expensive machine. I will be grateful for any suggestion.

I bought a MiniGrinder from Shoe System Plus. Its sanding wheel is attached to the motor only on one side and it vibrates. This makes the final finishing of shoes very difficult.

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#430 Post by jim_b » Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:07 pm

I may have just what you need, jbtlc@q.com

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#431 Post by jim_b » Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:21 pm

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#432 Post by jim_b » Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:26 pm

Standard shaft size. I have a couple sanding wheels that go on it. It would be great for a guy that only does an occasional work.

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#433 Post by washek » Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:37 pm

Mr. Brainard:

Thank you for your reply to my request. I would be interested, but it is difficult to judge your sander from the picture you posted. In addition, we are in the process of selling our California house and moving to Tucson, Arizona. Until we move and get somewhat settled, I cannot do anything. So I will contact you again early next year to see if your sander is still available. I tried to send you a direct e-mail to <jbtic@q.com>, but it bounced back as undeliverable.

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#434 Post by jim_b » Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:46 pm

Sorry but I typo'd the email address. It is JBTLC@Q.COM It was an "L" not an i.
The machine is disassembled for shipping but I do have a couple other pictures I will send via email. Resend me an email to the "correct" address and I will send more. No worries on time. Thanks, JB

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#435 Post by adam_j » Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:41 pm

has anyone ever used a singer 29s171 patcher? is it a good value or no.

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#436 Post by adam_j » Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:46 pm

also i have a lead on a landis 12 curve needle. it has trouble sewing but its been in a garage in the minnesota winter. can this have any effect on it? the seller wants 500.

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#437 Post by romango » Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:16 pm

On the Landis 12, they are very difficult to tune up properly, so not stitching well is not an indication that it is a bad buy but rather that it need to be tuned up.

Of course, it could have more serious problems. look for rust. Make sure you can cycle it easily.

Also, you could find a local shoe repair person who is familiar with the machines and pay them to come look at it.

I would say $500 is a great deal if it works. That's what I got mine for but it ended up costing me another $200 to move it!

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#438 Post by jim_b » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:10 pm

Is this not a 29K71? Generaly a good patch machine but not as good as an Adler 30-10 or - 70.

As for a K12, cold will do no harm to it. Simple adjustments of needle, awl and tension along with looper timing and a good clean threading, wax stripper, proper thread and thread lube and you have a great machine. Almost always failure to change out needle guide, have the correct thread and needle/awl size will surely create problems. Yes some of these where used hard and improperly adjusted over the years but the parts that do wear out are easy to replace and the rest of the parts are really tough to wear out. The machine was built to last forever and should. A machine with potential is worth $500.

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#439 Post by romango » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:20 pm

Jim,

Good info. I've got mine mostly behaving but I was still not completely satisfied. I hadn't realized the needle guide was an important thing to watch!

I going to look into getting a new one!

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#440 Post by jim_b » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:34 pm

The needle guide is the first to go. A wiggly needle causes broken needles, fraying thread and breaking thread.

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#441 Post by dw » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:40 pm

Hook sizes relate to needle guide sizes, awl sizes, and thread sizes, as well.

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#442 Post by adam_j » Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:43 pm

thanks for the info on the landis. the seller is a shoe repair and understood my hesitation to buy. he has agreed to show me how it works and show me all of the quirks of this particular machine. i also agreed to buy an adler 30-7 that sews pretty well for 1100. that combined with some other good deals i should be well on my way to success. if i could ever get paying customers...

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#443 Post by petra » Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:50 am

I am looking for a used/reconditioned post bed single needle sewing machine with a roller foot. I live in Vancouver but also have a place in Washington State. I have looked locally in our area but haven't come across for sale or anyone willing to part with their machines.
I see there are some available on the internet but the more I search the more I get confused about which make I should buy. I am leaning towards an Adler, Pfaff or Singer. does anyone know where I can purchase one?

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#444 Post by mac » Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:11 am

Hi Petra,
I purchased a Singer 136 post machine with roller foot from Landis Letendre a few years ago. I got it for a reasonable price and I was happy with their service. They also carry new machines. I would google them to check their website.
With the high Canadian dollar you also have some American suppliers. I have heard some mention Melanie Machine in California. (I think that was the name) Help here someone?
I hope that helps... Good luck with your search!

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#445 Post by guy_shannon » Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:21 am

Hi Petra.

I tried to send this yesterday by my mobile phone and it didn't go through.

Here are a couple of contacts in your area. Vern has a leather business and rebuilds sewing machines and Steve is an English shoemaker working for Lorne Labelle. I believe he is a Silver Cup winner through the Shoe Service Institute of America or maybe I'm just starting rumours.

Vern from Vancouver I think he may be on the island can help you out his number is 1-877-656-5115.

as well try Labelle Supply in Burnaby the number is 1-800-663-9893 ask for Steve he is in sales and knows of people selling equipment in the area.

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#446 Post by bluecarpenter » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:49 pm

I was just notified of a second american straight needle stitcher this week. The price on this one is even better than the 1st one. He said he hasn't used it for a year or so but it worked good then. I guess he was using it to make bridles and a few other things. It comes with several bobbins the bobbin case and some needles. I will be going to look at it at the end of the week.

How exactly is it used in making shoes and boots? For putting the soles on?
I know its not people powered but for the price I can't pass it up. Is there anyway I can operate it by hand. I've heard of someone turning the wheel while you sew with it.

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#447 Post by petra » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:20 pm

thank you Sean and Guy for your reply. I was wondering about a Techsew 810 machine. it's new, post bed roller foot with a servo motor. sold in canada for $1300. seems like too good of a deal.

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#448 Post by dearbone » Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:50 pm

Petra,

I will only buy this machine if i get to try it first before buying it,if i am not mistaken it is a first generation of sewing machine make in china,it could be a good machine i never own one,but i end up buying a reconditioned PFAFF post machine for few hundreds more and it is worth it.

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#449 Post by artvanhecke » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:11 am

Hi Petra/Nasser,

The Techsew 810 does not appear to have a driven roller like the Pfaff 491. Almost any Pfaff 491 you buy will have been used industrially, not a bad thing if maintained properly, but they do require technician level maintenance, even for oiling, meaning only that a screwdriver will be involved doing any maintenance. You just have to learn to be a mechanic when maintaining industrial gear. The Ankai 8810 is an exact duplicate of the Pfaff 491 mechanically and have had mechanics remark that it sure looks like a Pfaff inside and out. This animal is marketed by Highlead as the 24618 I believe and by Artisan as the 4618 and by Cobra as the 8810. Don't get it confused with other products with the 618 tag, it is very very different. The 8810, like the Pfaff 491 is one helluva machine, I have one and no complaints.

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#450 Post by petra » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:35 pm

Thanks Art. this is difficult without trying out the machine myself. The other machine I was looking at was the Highlead 24618....You said the 618 is very different. Why?
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